my post 'car crash tv'.....reffering to ronnie barker and comparing him to the celebrities in big brother at the moment....was attacked by yourself and tuned on its head, completely missing the point i was trying to make

In that house you have people who in my opinion have limited talent....and yet are refeered to as celebrities....i named ronnie barker....i could name any other person in the limelight..gay or straight...who i see as having real talent.

The reason why i mentioned ronnie barkers marriage to his wife....is that in that house you have a woman who is in there for having an affair with a high profile football manager.....a basketball player who has made a name for himself by having affairs (he admitted it himself)...george galloway who had many affairs behind his wifes back.....jodie marsh...who basically made a name for herself by wearing very little at celebrity parties and constantly talks about sex, porn and the size of male genitalia.

I go back to ronnie barker because he had a lot of talent but was a very well behaved man with it.....i could have said anyone else.....patrick swayze, andy garcia, david jason, sharon stone, catherine zeta jones......ANYONE!

My post had nothing...i repeat NOTHING to do with anyone being gay or straight or otherwise....some of my best friends...male and female are gay and for you to post that 'adam and eve...adam and steve fucking rubbish, was a pure and utter insult.

the reason i posted the damn thread in the first place was to ask you lot what effect the reality and celebrity obsession was having on society...and what or who would you class as a celeb....or role model. i fucking wish i hadnt bothered now