Hi, not sure if it's been brought up in the other Woolwich thread - had a look through but there is a LOT of replies.

Wondering what people's take is on the hoax theories?
There's been a few videos "proving" the hoax and a few "disproving" the hoax - either way, at least one video has been doctored.

Links:
IT IS A HOAX:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKzliFxfEjw

IT'S NOT A HOAX:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhtV7qkuNnk

There has been many other videos going either way floating around on youtube - some making good points, some making really silly points like pointing out things like bits of the video have been cut out - which I thought was obvious because they edit things for television instead of showing the full video.

I think the second video saying it's NOT a hoax makes very good points about the video being doctored by conspiracy theory supporters to make it seem as though the original footage was tampered with for the news i.e. to prove the "hoax" theory by actually tampering with the the video to sway it to support their viewpoint.

Any thoughts? I don't think it was a hoax and a lot of the controversy stirred up around in the wake has been really quite disturbing and upsetting.

I'm interested to hear other people's theories and if they have any other useful links or information.