and then you have to back button to it and say appear or something and then it appears on the board. well how many secret threads do you think there are that the OP hasn't summoned into existence?! there might be loads. further to this, there could be incredible content hidden deep inside dis that we just can't get because the person who started the thread just gave up. maybe every thread started has been started before and we don't know because we can't see it. how can we make all these hidden threads appear?