Spurs beat Shamrock Rovers 4-0, not enough to go through. toughest group ever though. Andros Townsend and Falque look promising, still not sure about the other youngsters, but too early to judge most of them. Spurs on the right side of some bad decisions this time, Jim Beglin almost combusts with annoyance.

Celtic go out, they actually did have quite a tough group

So do Birmingham, hopefully Hughton can improve their Championship form now.

David Villa's broken his leg, his form has been patchy this season too, new striker in Jan for barcelona? Torres or Soldado or Llorente maybe. probably not.

Micah Richards and Balotelli have a dust up, city try and explain it away. probably nothing.

AND FINALLY:

Lee Cattermole and Nikolas Bendtner have been arrested for smashing up a load of cars in Newcastle. WTF?