United stumble to a deeply unimpressive win over a pub team. City record a highly efficient victory over a harrowed Villareal side, the supporters of whom do themselves little credit with accompiniments of laser pens and racist chanting.

Bayern almost let a 3 goal lead slip against Napoli. Benfica and Basel conspire to make United's tepid group stage task even easier. If United had City's group, how well do you reckon they would have done? Fairly predictable results elsewhere.

Europa league tonight. Stoke will travel umpteen miles to take on Tel Aviv, so to Verbal I say it's not nailed on they will hammer you this weekend. Spurs will draw if they send out the second string away to Kazan. Brum, Celtic and Fulham all have winnable home games.

We await our Leeds correspondent Nestor for his reaction to their brave display against Blackpool.